Comments on: New book: Come on people, stop using p-values already http://scienceblog.darrouzet-nardi.net/?p=41 Sun, 06 Jul 2008 17:55:35 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.7.1 By: Aaron Berdanier http://scienceblog.darrouzet-nardi.net/?p=41&cpage=1#comment-5230 Sun, 06 Jul 2008 17:55:35 +0000 http://anthony.darrouzet-nardi.net/scienceblog/?p=41#comment-5230 Cool blog! I’m going to be a frequent reader.

I read the review in Science with much appreciation as well. Have you looked into much about likelihood for testing hypotheses? I think that this is extremely relevant, especially if you view your test as trying to reject hypotheses from a set of “candidates” and giving weight to the others. You don’t need a p-value when you are just saying that one possible hypothesis is better than another possible (not null) hypothesis.

Tom Hobbs, a professor at CSU, has been pushing this view in his work (on ungulate behavior) and he teaches it in one of his graduate classes. He has a graph where he suggests the growing emergence of new statistical techniques (especially Bayesian statistics) in the major ecology journals.

Like you said, any cultural change is hard. I think that ecologists and other scientists are starting to catch on, though. And it certainly helps if leading statisticians are on the same wavelength (that you shouldn’t need p-values to show your point).

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By: Jaclyn http://scienceblog.darrouzet-nardi.net/?p=41&cpage=1#comment-3741 Sun, 15 Jun 2008 02:31:25 +0000 http://anthony.darrouzet-nardi.net/scienceblog/?p=41#comment-3741 I like your gay marriage analogy. It’s heartening to think that one day scientists who refuse to perpetuate the use of faulty statistical methods may be granted the same rights guaranteed to all other citizens of this great nation. Until then, keep fightin’ the man…or the p-value! 😛

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